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Postby simpsonaaron » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:02 am

I've been thinking for a while that the CHF community should take it upon ourselves to build the 'Flash Animation' portion of Wikipedia.com into something exceptional.

I was just browsing (and adding a few links), and spotted this notice...

To meet Wikipedia's quality standards, this article or section may require cleanup.


Operation Wikipedia cleanup - who's with me?

Here's what we need to do:

1. Clean-up the page and conform to the Wikipedia guidelines
2. Create a more robust 'External Links' section (artists, portals, studios, shows, etc...)
3. Build a timeline - there's plenty of material that will help this cause, and we just need to begin at the beginning. I'm sure some great stuff will come of this.

We need unbiased people who won't just pump their own links into this section, or we lose credibility.
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Great Idea

Postby seanjames » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:16 am

That's a great idea Aaron. I'm going to go take a look now.
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I'd love to know why the article needs cleaning

Postby simpsonaaron » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:40 am

Does anyone know why that article has been flagged?

Also, here's the type of wiki page that I'd like to see on 'Flash Animation.'

Timeline of CGI in Film and Television

I want to see the definitive list of TV shows. Was the first Flash series on TV 'Mucha Lucha' or 'John Callahan's Quads,' or some French show someone told me about? Let's set the record straight.
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Postby mackhouse » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:15 pm

I will try and help out with the limited knowledge i have. Has lots of potential!
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Postby pierre » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:30 pm

For that french show, it might be "Arzak Rhapsody", inspired by Jean Giraud, aka Moëbius, work. He actually drawn the graphics used for the serie. His cartoons were scanned with high resolution to be transformed in vectors and used in flash. They used this process in order to keep his style for the lines instead of trying to make a copy by other animators.
The original story was a famous comic book called "Arzach".
You can see some samples here http://manocorto.free.fr/arzach.htm
There was no dialogues in the original, they added a narration in the serie.
The promotion site is down http://www.arzakrhapsody.com/ and the first episode is no more available online.
But you can see the n°6 here :http://commeaucinema.france2.fr/cac_histcourtes_article.php3?id_article=440
with realmedia player: http://commeaucinema.france2.fr/IMG/ram/ex.ram
It is called "Monkey heart". The stories are very oneirics (not sure of this word, maybe dream like is the right translation)
There are 14 episodes 3 minutes long so about 40 minutes to watch.

I found that 5 episodes were aired on tv the 30 december 2003, the rest must have been broadcast during 2004, but I've never seen them on TV.
I discovered the serie on DVD in 2004, it cost only 6 euros at the time.
The french DVD has no subtitles.
There is a spanish one with spanish subtitles.
some sreenshots of the DVD:http://www.devildead.com/indexfilm.php3?FilmID=967
The dvd is credited 2002, that's the year of production.
Strangely there is only a german article on Wikipedia.
During an interview the 13 april of 2006, he said that he was working on the script for a long feature film (question 11).

Currently there is "Avez-vous déjà vu... ?" on the channel 6.
6 episodes here:http://www.m6.fr/html/evenements/avezvousdejavu/index.shtml
and a few more: http://www.videohumour.net/videos/avez-vous-deja-vu/1.html
Directed by Pierre-Alain Bloch, the episodes are short and based on absurd situations.
The goal is to present unusual situations to the audiance. Each show starts with the question "Have you already seen ..."
and ends with "Now, Yes". Some of them don't really need translation.

I didn't thougt to talk about it because it wasn't in english, but I might post it in the TV Shows section if you think it can be interesting for other people.
I've also noticed that RV Trouillet presented his teaser.
I'll try to open a topic in the Feature Films section and to translate his synopsis, because you just see the action in the trailer.
I saw the update of his site last month but I was waiting for the english part to be done before to told you.

For the moment I can't think of other shows done in flash in France, I'll try to search some information about that.
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excellent

Postby simpsonaaron » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:39 pm

pierre! great stuff. thanks for contributing so much information. it's all new to me, and i'm guessing to most here on the boards. i'll pick through these links and add the shows to the growing list!
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Postby Adam.Sacks » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:44 pm

Starting with the second season, Home Movies was animated (and storyboarded) in flash. According to Amazon.com, the second season came out in 1999.
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Postby pierre » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:54 am

the second season of Home Movies came out in 2002 according to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Movie ... oon_series) and
http://homemovies.toonzone.net/CapsuleMainPage.html
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Postby pierre » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:53 pm

I have found a serie by Neptuno Films(Barcelona) witch has been launched in april 2002.
2020: http://www.neptunofilms.com/videos/series_2020_01.avi

There is another serie they did witch could be in flash too but I didn't found information about it.
King Arthur’s Disasters (Los desastres del Rey Arturo)
http://www.neptunofilms.com/videos/series_arturo_01_en.divx
http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=16256
http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=17363
Edit: King Arthur's Disasters Season II The Apocalypse
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90GVoOsFSL0[/youtube]
About your Flash time line Aaron, do you stop in 2002? What do you mean by "the definitive list of TV shows"?
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updates

Postby simpsonaaron » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:34 pm

adam - IMDB has the first season starting in 2000, and the Home Movies wikipedia entry has the second season airing in 2002. Seems odd, yes, so maybe someone else can shed some light here.

pierre - great find. you should go include that in the Flash Animation wikipedia entry, which i've now updated.
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Postby seanjames » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:00 am

I tried adding some info on Homestar a while back and it got removed. It may have just been a link, but I'm not sure. Has anyone else had problems with getting Homestar on the entry?
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Postby tobinaka » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:28 am

I'm very interested in Wikipedia Project. I introduced to EK-G the webmaster of ii access which is one of the biggest news sites on Flash in Japan. Then he made a link to this topic and gave me the information about the first Flash movie on TV in Japan. Though I don't know if I can help the project, I'm sure you will be interested in the story.

He pointed out that: it' said at Barubora's website of "History Textbook on the Internet in Nippon off the school textbooks" that Aruzi Morino's "Tukinoha Shizuku", 2, was introduced on NHK Educational TV's program "Teens TV Internet Information Agancy" on November 13th, 2001. The personality of the program said after watching the movie (with another's movie) "So, such movies can be made by one person..." That's the oldest case of Japanese Flash movie going on TV I can confirm.

As the Flash movie which was originally made to air on TV, with the help of the story GirCrows wrote, I find A-kuei & Gatchinpo" series the oldest. It's broadcasted by Fuji TV from October 9th 2001. But the original Flash movies of that were made in Taiwan and the program was the collaboration of TV production of Japan and Taiwan.

The first Japanese Flash movie which was made for TV program was made by Japanese animator must be Frogman's "the Frogman Show" which contains "Kofun Gal Kofy" (Ancient Tomb Girl Kofy) and "Taka no Tsume" (Hawk's Talons). It was broadcasted on Asahi TV from April 5th 2006.

It would be better if I could say "That is the first Japanese one!" but the history is so complicated. I could tell you only as above. That's all I've gathered so far.

By the way, there is a section of "Creating Flash animation from other software" on Flash Animation portion of Wikipedia. In Japan, a free software "ParaFla!" gains popularity. Some says ParaFla! has as many functions as Flash8. I don't know so much about it because I've never produced any Flash movie. But if you're interested in the tool ( maybe to add to Wikipedea, OR NOT?), I'll find out things about it and tell you here. That is partly because I myself am interested in ParaFla! tool. How about you?
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Postby hypnotic_frog » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:18 am

pierre wrote:I have found a serie by Neptuno Films(Barcelona) witch has been launched in april 2002.
2020: http://www.neptunofilms.com/videos/series_2020_01.avi

There is another serie they did witch could be in flash too but I didn't found information about it.
King Arthur’s Disasters (Los desastres del Rey Arturo)
http://www.neptunofilms.com/videos/series_arturo_01_en.divx
http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=16256
http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=17363
Edit: King Arthur's Disasters Season II The Apocalypse
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90GVoOsFSL0[/youtube]
About your Flash time line Aaron, do you stop in 2002? What do you mean by "the definitive list of TV shows"?


Awesome movie :)
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thanks

Postby simpsonaaron » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:16 am

i mostly stopped there because the timeline gets fairly massive after that. i was mostly interested in settling the disputes over who was first, and helping to establish some sort of history of Flash.

next up is Flash-animated series on the web.

did both of those series you listed air on TV?
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Postby timbfrost » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:42 am

did both of those series you listed air on TV?


King Arthur's Disasters was/is broadcast in the UK on the CiTV channel.


Incidentally, from the Wikipedia entry:

A Flash animation or Flash cartoon is an animated film which is distributed in the .swf file format of Adobe Flash animation software. It can be created in Flash or with other programs capable of writing .swf files.


I don't agree - a Flash animation or Flash cartoon is an animated film which is created using Adobe Flash. The distribution format (.swf) does not define it - Many Flash movies are viewed as .mov, .avi, .gif, .mp4 etc

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